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Erdős Problem #507
Heilbronn's triangle problem

OPENdatabase updated 2025-08-31

No proof or disproof is known, and it isn't known whether a finite computation could settle it.

What the community database records, not our verdict. erdosproblems.com no longer shows statuses (why).

The minimum (unsigned) area of a triangle determined by three distinct points in a set `S`. Collinear triples count with area `0`. `EuclideanGeometry.triangle_area` is a signed area, so the absolute value is taken before the infimum.

\(\alpha(n)\) is the supremum of `minTriangleArea S` over all sets `S` of \(n\) points in the unit disk.

Current best lower bound [KPS82].

Let \(\alpha(n)\) be such that every set of \(n\) points in the unit disk contains three points which determine a triangle of area at most \(\alpha(n)\). Estimate \(\alpha(n)\).
Statement as formalized in Formal Conjectures (Google DeepMind, Apache-2.0) · their label: research open · 6 further variants / known partial results in the Lean file. The authoritative wording is on erdosproblems.com/507.
Newer public claim (6 Oct 2026): OpenAI's internal-model release claims, for this problem, Heilbronn: for every large n, some n points in the unit square have every triangle of area ≥ c·n^(−2+η), η = 2/(45435k+16) ≈ 3·10⁻²³⁶ — the first power gain over Komlós–Pintz–Szemerédi's (log n)/n² (1982); the estimate of α(n) stays open — read by AI referee seats here 22 Oct, see /day/507-openai-heilbronn-power-lower-bound-refereed — family 191 at github.com/openai/math, OpenAI's own Lean proves the sequence form only — for an unbounded sequence of n, n-point sets in the unit square with every triangle ≥ n^(−2+η), η = 1/(100000k), and the refutation of the almost-n⁻² bound at ε = η/2 (its scope note: "the paper's statement for every sufficiently large n is broader"). Kernel-replayed on our machine on 22 Oct 2026, after three earlier third-party Comparator replays (mathvet 8 Oct; carlostoledo1891/cert-machine 10 Oct, with nanoda; nealmcb 11 and 15 Oct): 195 modules importing only Mathlib, 0 errors, standard axioms, both theorems and twelve definitions matched to the comparator under pp.all (one differs only by an @[irreducible] attribute; the kernel's records agree). Our Lean extends it to the paper's Theorem 1.1 for every large n, with the paper's exponent 2/(45435k+16), and proves Formal Conjectures' erdos_507.lower, its two lower-bound variants and the negation of green_77 from it — see our /day entry. This problem is not among the 25 on Bloom's 8 Oct list of the release's Erdős claims; the match to family 191 is our own reading, not Bloom's.
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Topicsgeometry
Statement in LeanFormal Conjectures
Solution in Leanno
Original pageerdosproblems.com/507
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Earlier today we refereed OpenAI's claimed first power gain for Heilbronn's triangle problem, η ≈ 3.18·10⁻²³⁶. Two public drafts claim far larger exponents on the same construction, η ≈ 1.96·10⁻⁸ (Ivan Blinov, with OpenAI Codex) and η ≈ 1.98·10⁻⁸ (Qiuyu Chen, with the Euler system), and we found no one who had checked either. Four seats were briefed to refute. P took the algebra (Blinov's use of Conner–Gesmundo–Landsberg–Ventura's 18-term determinant decomposition, checked symbolically and end to end in two finite fields) and the new collision lemma (exact toy enumerations, tight, with controls that fail). G took the transfer of OpenAI's geometry to the new parameters, W the world and credits, and S our own additions. P and G find that both drafts hold as read, with notes. Ours: a sharper bound for coinciding points, J. Wróblewski's 2,921-element progression-free set in place of the base-3 one, and a smaller box. Under the same conditions, these give η = 2/50,395,469 ≈ 3.97·10⁻⁸, twice Chen's; one further seat read it. No human has refereed any of it.

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Heilbronn's triangle problem asks how large the smallest triangle among n points in a disk or square can be made. Komlós, Pintz and Szemerédi's (log n)/n² from 1982 was the best proven lower bound, and the common belief was that n^(−2+o(1)) is the truth. OpenAI's preprint, dated 25 September and public since 6 October, claims a power gain: for every large n, n points in the unit square with every triangle at least c·n^(−2+η), η = 2/(45435k+16) ≈ 3·10⁻²³⁶. If it holds, the belief is false. Their own Lean proves only a weaker sequence form. We replayed it in the kernel (195 modules, standard axioms, statements matched; three third-party replays were earlier). Ours: a Lean proof of the paper's every-n theorem with the paper's exponent, built on their construction. From it come Lean proofs of Formal Conjectures' open erdos_507.lower question, its two lower-bound variants, the negation of Green's problem 77 (open there), and Big O Speedrun's trusted statement at OpenAI's exponent. AI referee seats read the paper and recomputed its finite lemmas. The theorem is OpenAI's, and the estimate of α(n) stays open.

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